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ArcticMUD => Newbie Area => Topic started by: zaxx on March 29, 2015, 07:46:58 AM

Title: Is it just me or Conclave tests are hard?
Post by: zaxx on March 29, 2015, 07:46:58 AM
Ah, and hints are useless :)
Title: Re: Is it just me or Conclave tests are hard?
Post by: Aristox on March 29, 2015, 03:39:25 PM
Type harder. It helps.
Title: Re: Is it just me or Conclave tests are hard?
Post by: Funko on April 03, 2015, 09:39:59 AM
I think they've been left intentionally hard to discourage new players from playing a mage at all.
Title: Re: Is it just me or Conclave tests are hard?
Post by: Coleman on April 03, 2015, 10:25:26 AM
Meh, don't feel bad.
I've been playing Arctic on and off for the past 20+ years, and I fail conclave tests.   Especially the ones I blew through a few years ago and thought were easy.

I died at least 7 times last wipe before getting my mage past the test.   Then again, I suck.

Title: Re: Is it just me or Conclave tests are hard?
Post by: zaxx on April 04, 2015, 07:54:57 AM
Still nothing since my post.
If you need help, just imagine it, they said... If you need a weapon, some armor, or even an exit...just imagine them, they said...
<mutters under his breath>
Title: Re: Is it just me or Conclave tests are hard?
Post by: Funko on April 04, 2015, 10:35:56 AM
I think I remember doing that one on my test.

Just bust out a thesaurus and go through every possible alternate word for what you want. Start with "imagine" for example, and the various meanings of the word in the context that a magic user might use them.
Title: Re: Is it just me or Conclave tests are hard?
Post by: zaxx on April 04, 2015, 10:50:03 AM
Yep, that's what I did. Even went to http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/imagine :)
Title: Re: Is it just me or Conclave tests are hard?
Post by: zaxx on April 04, 2015, 12:49:35 PM
Ok, it's a first time I passed two tests. And in the third one stone golem just comes in and massacres poor naked me. Really?
Title: Re: Is it just me or Conclave tests are hard?
Post by: zaxx on April 05, 2015, 08:10:16 AM
Ok, prisming renegade held me. One more death.
Title: Re: Is it just me or Conclave tests are hard?
Post by: Chisul on April 05, 2015, 09:47:25 AM
What I like about the tests is how creative use of spells can often win the day. Plus, having to put to use some spells that I only use when passing the mage test.
Title: Re: Is it just me or Conclave tests are hard?
Post by: zaxx on April 05, 2015, 09:53:05 AM
Was that a hint or just a general observation? :)
Title: Re: Is it just me or Conclave tests are hard?
Post by: zaxx on April 05, 2015, 10:33:02 AM
You make a desperate leap towards the other side of the ravine but fall short and die horribly at the bottom of the deep pit.

Okay...
Title: Re: Is it just me or Conclave tests are hard?
Post by: zaxx on April 05, 2015, 11:58:52 AM
You wear some heavy black robes of the Conclave about your body.

Finally!
Title: Re: Is it just me or Conclave tests are hard?
Post by: Sanjuro on April 05, 2015, 01:14:27 PM
Congratulations.

Think of it this way: having to learn how to solve these puzzles in this relatively risk-free environment, you are now better equipped to find better places die horribly.
Title: Re: Is it just me or Conclave tests are hard?
Post by: breiner on April 10, 2015, 08:38:44 AM
There is definitely difference in difficulty between the various tests, but if you find one completely impossible, then chances are that you overlooked something.
You should ofc also max out your weaponskills before going in.
Title: Re: Is it just me or Conclave tests are hard?
Post by: Dralan on April 10, 2015, 05:44:39 PM
I really enjoyed the conclave tests when they were first put in and i still do even now.  When I first completed them i felt a big
sense of accomplishment and I feel like the tests were really well made and thought out.
Some of the tests can be pretty hard and like Sanjuro said it can prepare you for playing a mage better if you are new to the game or the class.  Playing a mage can be hard now but, its nothing like it use to be in the old days. 
Title: Re: Is it just me or Conclave tests are hard?
Post by: Alecto on April 19, 2015, 09:52:30 PM
the flee command is your friend!
Title: Re: Is it just me or Conclave tests are hard?
Post by: Grimwar on May 06, 2015, 03:27:29 PM
Although I no longer play (lead a guild on GW2 plus recent newborn) Arctic always rekindles fond memories. The Conclave tests in particular set the bar for what makes a text-based game enjoyable this day and age.  If anything I would hope more of the game was so well thought out and challenging.

Perhaps another thread but all zones should be "level gated" - once past a certain level that zone is closed to that character.   Part of the Conclave challenge is that no one can blow thru by overcompensating with higher levels, larger groups, maxxed out gear, etc.  And there are enough tests that I encountered a new test each wipe, plus really savored passing tests that I previously failed.  As it stands many lower and mid level zones are farmed thru by overcompensating groups for the sake of efficiency and this is sad given the hard work by their creators.
Title: Re: Is it just me or Conclave tests are hard?
Post by: Thymorical on June 03, 2015, 05:29:05 PM
last 3 times i did it i might have died once..
Title: Re: Is it just me or Conclave tests are hard?
Post by: snax on June 03, 2015, 09:56:56 PM
last 3 times i did it i might have died once..
You must suck.  As the loving aristox previously said TYPE HARDER.

I'm still not playing hardly at all, just occasionally posting on forums.  I'm still saddened that I'm judged only for my premedicated state by some.  I do function quite well these days.
Title: Re: Is it just me or Conclave tests are hard?
Post by: walters on November 03, 2015, 06:20:30 AM
the premedicated randy is the one we liked the other one dt's us to much :D
Title: Re: Is it just me or Conclave tests are hard?
Post by: Alecto on November 03, 2015, 05:53:23 PM
there are several "level-gated" zones in the game.  Some load harder mobs if you are over a certain level.  Others make you fight a stone dragon...
Title: Re: Is it just me or Conclave tests are hard?
Post by: Gramm on November 03, 2015, 08:50:07 PM
They aren't hard enough! if you die your character should be autodeleted. like in the books!
You should just automatically be able to enter at level 10 without learning renegade mobs, and if you die you have to restart lol.
Title: Re: Is it just me or Conclave tests are hard?
Post by: walters on November 03, 2015, 11:36:27 PM
^----this guy would never have a mage if you got deleted when you died in mage tests
Title: Re: Is it just me or Conclave tests are hard?
Post by: Gramm on November 04, 2015, 02:10:07 AM
I was never meant to play a mage truthfully matt lets be honest.
Title: Re: Is it just me or Conclave tests are hard?
Post by: Malaki on November 04, 2015, 07:29:35 PM
Its because they were left as difficult and damage dealing as they were when they were released.  And then shortly after mage HP's were nerfed.  Still completely doable, but some luck or skill.  But if your trying to do it fast sometimes its just easier to die and go back in until you get one you know or is way easier.
Title: Re: Is it just me or Conclave tests are hard?
Post by: Zozen on November 04, 2015, 08:23:34 PM
I think I suicided through most of the tests just to learn/explore them. Good content. Fun challenge. Overall probably one of the coolest aspects of the game. I wish there were more of these for other classes.
Title: Re: Is it just me or Conclave tests are hard?
Post by: Gnua on December 02, 2015, 04:36:37 PM
Its because they were left as difficult and damage dealing as they were when they were released.  And then shortly after mage HP's were nerfed.  Still completely doable, but some luck or skill.  But if your trying to do it fast sometimes its just easier to die and go back in until you get one you know or is way easier.

i seem to recall one of the tests that i previously had no trouble with became hard because i'd be bruising a stunned rat and not able to get it to dying before the tick healed it up to full.