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Title: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on July 18, 2020, 06:14:49 PM
Hey all -

So last wipe I ended up making a rank 50 kender thief named Chani. 

I quit after a bug in the Omen Quest that zapped me and was pretty frustrating, but the reality was that I didn't have time to be playing because I run a company and our team has started working on launching something that requires all my attention.  In other words, it was the right move.

Today I got a message from a guy asking about thief

That said, I truly have enjoyed my time on arctic more than any other game, and figured I'd post a fun log a week of some of the stuff my thief soloed.

I generally didn't group with anyone, and used Cleric, Shaman, Mage, or Druid to be the support char for thief or hold a zone.  I didn't have amazing EQ, very few +dam or anything else, but I did prep pretty well, and it let me explore and knock out quite a few zones that I had always wanted to when I played back in high school.

I'll list some of them at the bottom.

Anyways, I'm going to start trying to drop a fun log a week, feel free to post your own.  I won't reveal any secrets, and I'll just stick to some of the more important fights.  But again, I don't have elite game knowledge, and I didn't have any impressive weapons or eq, I was just really good at prepping, setting up good macros, etc.

Feel free to ask any Q's on general thief stuff, happy to answer.

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*Note - most of these I did, but I had some of these crossed out and the ones I hadn't gotten to not crossed out, but copy and paste didn't work with strikethrough, so just assume I got to most of these, and it doesn't include a lot of the stuff that I did but didn't update like Ravenshadow, etc.


Solo List

1.   Irda - Clagon / Htoll / Raylax / Tarl / Mazuz / Sun Child / Loklomin / Bard / Terahio / Uzo / Joslen / Phoenix / Ur Agrahim / Hermit / Lammasu / etc
2.   Balifor Bay -  Shiar / Karine / Viper / Balrog  +Gruarth + Engla
3.   Sanction - High Priests/Cervos/Beholder/Dolmo/Concubines/Weaponsmaster/Skie/Captain/Kitiara+ Ariakan
4.   Shroomen - all 4 imps and illusionist
5.   Bog Dragon/Lord Trachyte/Evil Spirit
6.   Lunitari - Qualm + King/Cupelix/Bmobs/Lunitari Avatar + Void Beast
7.   Shadow - Caldean/Walcanar/Aegis + Tero + 5 Headed
8
.   Theiwar - Simm/Emaciated Dwarf/Widow Queen/Spider Demon
9.   CK Trio + spirit + dragon + shaka+ all of CK
10.   Lemuria - weaponmaster + king + guardians + God trio at end
11.   Forgotten Temple - Tesiak/Balor/Krona/General/Ombra/Samus
12.   Celestial Temple - King/Unicorn + Basilisk/Chieftain
13.   Stone Dragon at Lok Tath
14.   Mystic Queen/Dragon +all of mystic besides vault/king
15.   Tantallion - Bruno/Lord Curston
16.   Astinus
17.   Silent Observer/Savant/Shadowlord
18.   Dargo - Mayor/Prince/Lezi/Speaker of the Moon
19.   Lord Gargath
20.   Pyramid - Vorquin + Silver Serpent + Commander + HIgh Priests + Korquet + Banshee
21.   Ancient - Valinda/Keeper/Handmaiden/Evil priests/creature of mirrors/trainees/Evaro/Jaguar/Vauld/Amity/Kaligath
22.   Garnet Mobs- Stoneroot/Pitch/Galan/etc
23.   Izmeralda - Golden Dragon at Mystic
24.   Vry Kith Tower
25.   Torak
26.   Cabre
27.   Shyn
28.   Raple
29.   Fordus
30.   Zirko
31.   Neraka - High Adjudicator/Slith/Arena/Center area mobs/Zirko/Statue of Takhisis
32.   Delphon - captain, merchant khan, mercantile captain, druidess, high priest/lava creature, Diegl + Friar Sabayr Felinas + Dyarg + Condor
33.   Khariolis with Theiwar Invasion - Kayhar/jehnzen/etc
34.   Thorbardin - High Priestess of Reorx + Council + Lady Vera + Portia + Ambassadors
35.   Graknar -  Grap
36.   Sorinthalas - King
37.   Thief guildmaster in Bali
38.   DKO - Nightlord/High Priestess 1/High Priestess 2
39.   Captain of Pal/Charles Strongarm
40.   Crytic
41.   Thieves Cove
42.   Illrigger
43.   Palanthas thief shop
44.   Ansabar/Stingworm
45.   Largus - Black Dragon/White Dragon/Green Dragon + High Priests
46.   High Executioner of Balifor
47.   Mayor and Lord and all of Lemish
48.   All Garnet mobs - Stoneroot/Pitch/etc
49.   Gulfport Emperor
50.   All bali mobs
51.   All solace mobs
52.   All palanthas mobs
53.   All Neraka mobs
54.   All kalaman mobs
55.   Physix
56.   Ancient Red Dragon
57.   All of Boku
58.   Bandit Swamp
59.   Jungle
60.   Illyoc
61.   Lytburg
62.   Sahuagin
63.   Plane of Vasmaarg
64.   Crystal Quest Dragons
65.   Patriarch in Caergoth
66.   Mordred Drac Tower
67.   Riddler in Fyzia
68.   Lord Falstaff
69.   All of Shayds
70.   All Kender Ruins
71.   Taeldeth
72.   Dargaard Valley (evil)+good
73.   Balcombe
74.   Boylein
75.   All of celestial temple
76.   Newport mobs?
77.   Ancient Red in wastelands
78.   Storms
79.   Terzak
80.   Deep Mine Quests - (most)
81.   Newport Guildmasters
82.   Vry Kith Tower
83.   Albert
84.   Phaethon
85.   Torak's Retreat
86.   Htoll
87.   All of Irda
88.   Sanction
89.   Citadel of Dracos
90.   Full Galazor
91.   Full dragonarmy refuge
92.   Forgotten Temple
93.   Mound
94.   Newport Guildmasters
95.   Taelan Doth
96.   Greenen Dragon
97.   Luni - King/Cupelix/Bmobs/Lunitari Avatar
98.   Celestial Temple - King and Chieftain
99.   Theiwar - Widow Queen/Spider Demon
100.   Merchant and guards
101.   Tarsis Wastelands
102.   Temple of Haven - High Priest - Spirit of Terrapin
103.   Thieves Way - Surlon / Jack / Jardel / Allen Scar / Master Acrobat / Master Trainer / Sally Dale / Widower Mike / Geoffrey the Guildmaster
104.   Tirabot - Sea Golem / Grimsoar / Gerik / Ellysta / Tarothin / Hawkbrother / Eskala / Pirvan / Haimya / + Floating Spectre / Undead Knight
105.   Tesiak
106.   Prince Lyzian and Mayor in Dargo
107.   Albert/etc in Tarsis
108.   Full Slaith Swamp
109.   Full Sirrion Caverns
110.   Full Rockhorde Peninsula
111.   Full Red Thorn Guild
112.   Full Que-Teh Village
113.   Full Que Kiri Village
114.   Balifor Quests - Underground + Fair Maiden +
115.   Planes of Vasmaarg
116.   Plains of Dust
117.   Plains of Abanasinia + Sinia Tsaroth
118.   Full Phaethon
119.   Full Ogre Hills
120.   Full Lok Tath
121.   Full Kalaman Graveyard
122.   Full Gypsy Camp
123.   Graves End
124.   Toede
125.   Forests of Goodlund
126.   Forest of Haven
127.   Flotsam
128.   Dragon's Point
129.   Full Dragonarmy Outpost
130.   Full Dirim Peaks
131.   Den of thieves
132.   Darken Wood
133.   Full Crytic
134.   Bullywug
135.   Brightfield Cemetary
136.   Full Beryl Mines
137.   Full bandit hideout
138.   Full Aghar
139.   Jungle
140.   Ilyoc Swamp
141.   Icewall - North of Vry Kith
142.   Haven
143.   Under Relm
144.   Palanthas Thief Shop + Carina's Quest
145.   Stormhead Quests
146.   Flying citadel
147.   Forgotten Temple
148.   Graknar
149.   Gal'Vari Isle
150.   Mithas
151.   High Clerist
152.   Last Gaard
153.   Plane of Vasmaarg
154.   Mino Isles
155.   Pirate Island
156.   Rayne's
157.   Sahuagin Reef
158.   Sinia Tsaroth
159.   Slaith Swamp
160.   Storms Keep
161.   Temple of Takhisis
162.   Torak's Retreat
163.   Mortigoth
164.   Waterspan
165.   Vingaard River
166.   Terzak




Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on July 18, 2020, 07:11:33 PM
First log - Celestial Valley (Evil):

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b4f52zgal50vmus/Chani%20vs%20Celestial%20Valley%20%28evil%29.txt?dl=0

Was one of my first times doing this zone, brought my Shaman with me to help hold it and pull me out if I was in trouble, but for the most part this was just lots of fading/evenoming/and prep.

It was also related to a game quest I needed for another char.

With just a thief CV is actually a relatively quick zone. 

Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Kyuss on July 18, 2020, 09:47:52 PM
thanks for sharing! Just curious, what ranks did you buy for your thief?
I have a Kender thief with similar stats.
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on July 18, 2020, 10:00:47 PM
It wasn't just the ranks, it was also the attuned medal that I think I had full too.

The ranks if I recall were:

- Haste
- Nightvision
- Fade
- Backstab
- Dodge
- Envenom
- Regenerate
- Legend

+

Medal:
- detinvis
- senselife
- invis
-sus
- canfly
- 2 con
- 2 str
- 2 dex
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on July 19, 2020, 12:23:17 AM
And for fun, here's a quick one of me soloing Bakali

https://www.dropbox.com/s/nrakz741507oxpj/Chani%20vs%20Bakali.txt?dl=0

This can be a bit dicey at times with stabbers, but it wasn't too bad.  Lots of secrets in this zone I don't know I'm sure.
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Dagda on July 19, 2020, 05:14:41 AM
It wasn't just the ranks, it was also the attuned medal that I think I had full too.

The ranks if I recall were:

- Haste
- Nightvision
- Fade
- Backstab
- Dodge
- Envenom
- Regenerate
- Legend

+

Medal:
- detinvis
- senselife
- invis
-sus
- canfly
- 2 con
- 2 str
- 2 dex

why would you buy haste with adrenaline rush?
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on July 19, 2020, 01:13:28 PM
Yeah - that's the question I figured I would get.

The reason was because the main way I was dying was lag - bash lag, etc.  Adrenaline rush is great, but it would last for too short of a time, and as you can see with my logs, my fights would go for a bit.  Haste gave me extra chances to envenom, increased damage significantly, and reduced all the lag over time.  So died much less.

So again, the reason is because adrenaline rush doesn't last long enough.

That said, I definitely died by accidentally typing adren a couple times. 
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Patpat on July 19, 2020, 04:20:13 PM
What’s with the random 2-3 round random lag you get after skills with the haste rank?
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on July 19, 2020, 04:39:07 PM
Eh?  I didn't really notice this?
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Patpat on July 19, 2020, 05:20:24 PM
Oh. Seems like sometimes you are moving like you are hasted then sometimes you slow way down even slower than normal skill lag. It’s pretty inconsistent. Not sure what the deal is. Maybe I’m just broken.
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on July 19, 2020, 11:49:49 PM
Ah, yeah, I'm not sure, but I think that's a combination of a few things - specifically it cuts the seconds of lag, but that could still be 1 round or 2 depending on when in the "round" I was bashed.  I also think there might be some legend bash npcs or something, but who knows.
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on July 20, 2020, 12:10:47 AM
Here's a log of my thief the wipe before last wipe doing Lunitari. 

My thief the wipe before was not ranked super highly, so didn't have haste, and we couldn't use 2 players, so all of this was completely solo.

This was my first time doing it, I got much better, couldn't find log of Luni King, but who cares really.  Didn't do void beast, mainly because I don't know that part and it seemed very likely to be a DT for me.  Did battle group, Cupelix, and Avatar.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5lm9opor51rrtki/Qwerz%20vs%20Lunitari.txt?dl=0
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on July 22, 2020, 03:55:18 PM
This was a very quick fight against Morathian.

As some point out, the more difficult play is against the guards and getting there, but I decided to leave that out.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0mkab852in662nj/Chani%20vs%20Morathian.txt?dl=0
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on July 26, 2020, 06:59:50 PM
Long log of Chani vs. Ravenshadow.  There's a lot there that I haven't figured out yet, so unfortunately wasn't able to do everything. 

Reza/idiotic body guard was annoying as hell as healers generally are for thieves.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/atis6igl8mn0ho0/Chani%20vs%20Ravenshadow.txt?dl=0

Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on July 27, 2020, 03:16:22 PM
Chani vs. Physix

I know there's more to this zone, sadly I never was able to explore it fully.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9t817ok9yl2qt94/Chani%20vs.%20Physix.txt?dl=0
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on July 29, 2020, 05:58:26 PM
Chani vs. Baerul (+ thieves underground, Onyx, Master Assassin, etc)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yvx9o07oyd805yy/Chani%20vs.%20Kalaman%20Thieves%20Way.txt?dl=0
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on July 31, 2020, 05:39:03 PM
Long solo killing Lord Frederick/Lytburg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/r4au4w3f3xnghf5/Chani%20vs%20Lytburg.txt?dl=0
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on August 06, 2020, 03:01:53 PM
Here's Qwerz soloing Irda, did Htoll too, but not in this log, will try to find it later

https://www.dropbox.com/s/krynrpcsjiv8vn8/Qwerz%20vs%20Irda.txt?dl=0
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on August 07, 2020, 02:00:49 PM
Here's sanction w/Cervos, Kitiara/Skie, etc.

Didn't do Ariakas or beholder in this log, but will try to find one where I did -

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kjktdg04gv523pw/Qwerz%20vs.%20Sanction.txt?dl=0
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on August 08, 2020, 03:13:13 PM
Here's a log of me soloing Shadow - Walcanar/Aegis, Caldean, Shiira, marble golem, etc.  No Tero/5 headed.

The Aegis/Wally fight took forever, I later refined my tactics for dealing with healers that worked much better, but this one was pretty obnoxious.  Would have also been much easier if I had a shaman to help, but this was before multiing was allowed.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qd04ihutg1j68na/Qwerz%20vs.%20Old%20Shadow.txt?dl=0
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: jwhite on August 08, 2020, 09:15:12 PM
crazy stuff.  makes me want to be good at thief!
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on August 10, 2020, 01:18:02 AM
Just a quickie of killing Sorinthalas King

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xpcc8qufyp3d8ma/Qwerz%20vs.%20Sorinthalas%20King.txt?dl=0
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on August 10, 2020, 01:24:28 AM
And Shroomen (first fight was annoying, I should have cleared out wanders)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/alqj1i5roosculm/Qwerz%20vs.%20Shroomen.txt?dl=0
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on August 10, 2020, 04:53:56 PM
Here's a log of me soloing all of Theiwar - stabbers, archmages, priest, simm, emaciated dwarf, widow queen, spider demon.

Widow Queen/Spider Demon are pretty rough for a thief, but wore them down.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7mk5iyw7xmhuy7n/Qwerz%20vs.%20Theiwar.txt?dl=0
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Oligo on August 11, 2020, 05:48:42 AM
Personally prefer Github over Dropbox for pure text file sharing

Regardless, that doesn't take away from your impressive feats, game play, and in-game mastery.
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on August 11, 2020, 05:51:37 PM
Haha, thanks, my setup with dropbox is just a little bit easier is all.

Here's a short log of Celestial Temple - fairly mellow relative to some of the others:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mf90q391v76bgsh/Qwerz%20vs.%20Celestial%20Temple.txt?dl=0
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on August 12, 2020, 02:19:40 PM
Mystic - up past queen, but no king/vault.  Couple pretty close calls with the queen.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/o0v7mitxjspvi6k/Qwerz%20vs.%20Mystic.txt?dl=0
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on August 13, 2020, 03:00:39 PM
Qwerz vs. all of cloud kingdom

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5l0nyyxfyfg2vrq/Qwerz%20vs.%20Cloud%20Kingdom.txt?dl=0
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on August 16, 2020, 09:17:47 PM
Qwerz vs. Forgotten Temple.

The Samus lag special was a real difficult thing to go against without using a second char unfortunately, so had to leave Samus but was able to hit everything else. 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/f2u4uy8gzasbuua/Qwerz%20vs.%20Forgotten%20Temple.txt?dl=0
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on August 17, 2020, 03:46:23 PM
Gonna throw out some dragon logs -

Here's first, simple one, Qwerz vs. the Ancient Red Dragon from Solamnic Plains

https://www.dropbox.com/s/y7gqb5dcfexihlm/Qwerz%20vs.%20Ancient%20Red.txt?dl=0
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on August 18, 2020, 11:41:00 PM
Bog dragon fun

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yv53efa0fqmfxw0/Qwerz%20vs.%20Massive%20Green%20Dragon.txt?dl=0
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on August 19, 2020, 04:53:56 PM
Qwerz vs. Greenen

The Greenen dragon was pretty horrific to do solo.  If I was able to multi with a Shaman it would have been MUCH easier, but such is life.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/uc65j92an264zbk/Qwerz%20vs.%20Greenen.txt?dl=0
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Dagda on August 19, 2020, 05:03:33 PM
Try it this wipe.
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on August 20, 2020, 03:43:57 PM
Eh, sadly I'm retired :(

Here's Qwerz soloing the Golden Dragon in Mystic

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4lior1yku8fucml/Qwerz%20vs.%20Mystic%20Gold%20Dragon.txt?dl=0
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on August 20, 2020, 04:18:20 PM
Also - I should note a couple tips for aspiring thieves:

1)  Envenoming
You see me envenoming both weapons in many of these earlier logs.  That was a mistake, I learned that only envenoming your prime is what matters.  Another reason haste rank helped me for Chani (Qwerz was not hasted)

2) Fighting Healers
The best way to fight healers is to prevent them from memming.  If you can make sure they are fighting on the tick while casting every spell they have, you can actually wear them down.  I later found this was the best way to try to deal with them, rather than depending on getting lucky with a lost conc or silence.  Make sure you have a great tic timer, be ams/high save, and then just try to get them to waste all their spells while not taking too much damage.  Have heals and don't let them EVER mem on a tick. 

3)  Healer/Warr duos
Often it's best to stab/envenom both, not just focus on a single one.  That way you're taking less damage and in theory both are resting


4)  Prep is everything
Learn how to quickly load AMS, fireshield, and lots of heals.  Them nerfing fade REALLY hurt this, to be honest, fade was the most important thief skill to me for soloing, because it made prepping so easy.  Still very doable, but far more annoying/time consuming.  There's also easy to pop thief NV no rent items out there, I used those a lot when I couldn't afford the rank.  There are also darkness scrolls easily loadable by thieves.

5)  Have secondary chars for scribe/brew
I always had lots of cure blind pots on me, rem poisons, and especially repose.  Repose+Regen rank alone could get me MASSIVE hp gains per tick, and if you found items that were massive +regen, that was always a win. 

6)  Focus on practical damage and long fights
A 1d30 is pretty snazzy when it gets you that really high damage backstab.  But you should care about average damage, because in a long fight, it's all about the law of large numbers.

The prime I used was a relatively easy to find in stores, decently easy to pop solo 4d4 +2 dam.

That's a 12 average damage weap.

The sexy Black Pronged Trident is 2d9 +2.  What's the average damage?  12. 

The crystal dagger, often thought of as one of the best weapons in the game (and soloable by a thief) is 3d6 +2 +2

What the average damage on that (ignoring hitroll)?  12.5

Dark Adamantite Dagger - 2d9 +1 dam  - average damage?  11

So remember.  For choosing your weapon, go with a good AVERAGE damage. 

And as Corey would I'm sure remind, some +damage never hurts. 

7)  You don't need elite eq, only elite prep/good tactics
I never grouped and never had any eq I couldn't pop myself.  I also didn't spend time trying to get amazing eq because I had limited time and didn't want to bother.  Just good knowledge and patience and not dying.

That said, if you can find a good immune_negative_energy item, I'd recommend keeping it around, edrains are annoying and go through AMS I believe.



8)  A/B test

Try different tactics.  See what works best.  Keep a list of notes, I used evernote.


9)  Don't turn off room descriptions

I never did because I did so much exploring.  I also don't use ANSI as I prefer to color using my own client (Zmud)
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on August 21, 2020, 02:30:08 PM
A little fun with our friend the Stone Dragon...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/aluj73x64zm9pr0/Qwerz%20vs.%20Stone%20Dragon.txt?dl=0
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on August 23, 2020, 06:19:23 PM
Here's Chani vs. Kag Hinterlands.  Such a strange zone, let me know if I missed any mobs, I think I did all but who knows.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/t7fwm5kgd5i87wn/Chani%20vs.%20Kag%20Hinterlands.txt?dl=0
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: fulloflife on August 26, 2020, 06:45:10 AM
More logs plz - also a request to paste some of the loot !
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on August 28, 2020, 10:52:52 PM
Here's an incomplete log, it failed going into Sarson but captured some of the fun -

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2u43iuvymshnpej/Qwerz%20vs.%20Sarson%27s.txt?dl=0
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Vespin on October 05, 2020, 08:43:47 PM
I too have a fun thief solo that you failed to list in your accomplishments:

Here's my rank 62 r6 Legendary Thief.

You are using:
<worn on finger>           a pristine white pearl ring
<worn on finger>           a black draconian insignia
<worn around neck>         an emerald bejeweled brooch
<worn around neck>         an amulet of darkness
<worn on body>             a battle suit covered in black polished spikes
<worn on chest>            a gleaming silver medal (attuned)
<worn on head>             a black domino
<worn on legs>             a pair of golden whale bone greaves
<worn on feet>             a pair of barbed wire boots
<worn on hands>            a pair of wicked green dragon claws
<worn on arms>             the ancient sleeves of stealth
<slung over shoulder>      a small quiver of cured octopus skin
<worn about body>          a heavy black cloak
<worn about waist>         an embroidered black belt and sheath
<worn as pouch>            a dark sack
<worn around right wrist>  a braided leather band
<worn around left wrist>   a braided leather band
<used in primary hand>     an emerald short sword
<used in secondary hand>   a thin mushroom hilted blade

Your current rank affects:

1  Legendary Coup         skill coup by 5               
2  Fwap                   DAMROLL by 2                 
3  Legendary Pick         skill pick by 5               
4  Fireproof              IMMUNE_HEAT                   
5  Iron Man               PHYSICAL_DAMAGE_REDUCTION by 5
6  Wap                    DAMROLL by 1                 
7  Arctic Legend          Turns you into a Legendary   
                          character.                   
8  Legendary Backstab     skill backstab by 5           
9  Legendary Dodge        skill dodge by 5             
10 Legendary Envenom      skill envenom by 5           
11 Legendary Fade         skill fade by 5               
12 Iron Man               PHYSICAL_DAMAGE_REDUCTION by 5
13 Wap                    DAMROLL by 1                 
14 Health Nut             HEALTH by 5                   


Permanent enchantments:
  nightvision
  awareness
  flight
  nocharm
  protection from evil
  protection from undead
  con by 2


512H 24V 33C Exits:NES> e
Fewmaster's Bedroom
     This is the personal bedroom of Fewmaster Toede. Though it may be
better than what the other goblins get, you wouldn't let your dog sleep in
this mess. The room is dark and dirty, armor and equipment of all sorts lie
about on the floor. There's also a large poor excuse for a bed in the far
end of the room. Although you are in dangerous territory, the stench would
probably bring you down before any of the goblin's swords. The only exit
is west.
A fat and smelly goblin is surprised by your entrance.


512H 23V 33C Exits:W>
backstab toede
Fewmaster Toede makes a strange sound but is suddenly very silent, as you place an emerald short sword i
n his back.
You receive 0 experience.
Fewmaster Toede is dead! R.I.P.

512H 23V 33C [Fewmaster Toede:Dying] Exits:W>
The death cry of Fewmaster Toede echoes from somewhere nearby...



EDIT: I just realized you did list Toede.  i searched "goblin camp." my bad.  Here's a replacement log to make up for it:

618H 197V 189C Exits:(S)W> open door s
Ok.

618H 197V 189C Exits:SW> sneak
You begin moving quietly.

618H 197V 189C Exits:SW> s
backstab korbock
The Great Chamber
     In this large chamber you see a huge pillow upon the floor next to a
great stone throne. A table, chest, and some stone benches are here as
well. Large plates of copper have been engraved to depict different scenes.
These plates have been hung on the walls for decoration. A great deal of
effort was made to make this room elegant but you are not the least bit
impressed.
A large kobold sits here upon the throne.
A burly little kobold stands here glaring at you.
A burly little kobold stands here glaring at you.
A burly little kobold stands here glaring at you.
A burly little kobold stands here glaring at you.
A burly little kobold stands here glaring at you.

618H 195V 189C Exits:N> Korbock reaches behind himself quickly, only to discover your deadly sword in hi
s back.
You receive 0 experience.
Korbock is dead! R.I.P.
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Tajs on October 05, 2020, 09:51:59 PM
Nobody likes a showoff.. ;) :D
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Vespin on October 05, 2020, 11:47:55 PM
Nobody likes a showoff.. ;) :D


get on my level, bruh! =)
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Lloth on October 07, 2020, 01:55:08 AM
That's a yikes from me.
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Bryton on October 09, 2020, 01:37:15 PM
I too have a fun thief solo that you failed to list in your accomplishments:

Here's my rank 62 r6 Legendary Thief.

You are using:
<worn on finger>           a pristine white pearl ring
<worn on finger>           a black draconian insignia
<worn around neck>         an emerald bejeweled brooch
<worn around neck>         an amulet of darkness
<worn on body>             a battle suit covered in black polished spikes
<worn on chest>            a gleaming silver medal (attuned)
<worn on head>             a black domino
<worn on legs>             a pair of golden whale bone greaves
<worn on feet>             a pair of barbed wire boots
<worn on hands>            a pair of wicked green dragon claws
<worn on arms>             the ancient sleeves of stealth
<slung over shoulder>      a small quiver of cured octopus skin
<worn about body>          a heavy black cloak
<worn about waist>         an embroidered black belt and sheath
<worn as pouch>            a dark sack
<worn around right wrist>  a braided leather band
<worn around left wrist>   a braided leather band
<used in primary hand>     an emerald short sword
<used in secondary hand>   a thin mushroom hilted blade

Your current rank affects:

1  Legendary Coup         skill coup by 5               
2  Fwap                   DAMROLL by 2                 
3  Legendary Pick         skill pick by 5               
4  Fireproof              IMMUNE_HEAT                   
5  Iron Man               PHYSICAL_DAMAGE_REDUCTION by 5
6  Wap                    DAMROLL by 1                 
7  Arctic Legend          Turns you into a Legendary   
                          character.                   
8  Legendary Backstab     skill backstab by 5           
9  Legendary Dodge        skill dodge by 5             
10 Legendary Envenom      skill envenom by 5           
11 Legendary Fade         skill fade by 5               
12 Iron Man               PHYSICAL_DAMAGE_REDUCTION by 5
13 Wap                    DAMROLL by 1                 
14 Health Nut             HEALTH by 5                   


Permanent enchantments:
  nightvision
  awareness
  flight
  nocharm
  protection from evil
  protection from undead
  con by 2


512H 24V 33C Exits:NES> e
Fewmaster's Bedroom
     This is the personal bedroom of Fewmaster Toede. Though it may be
better than what the other goblins get, you wouldn't let your dog sleep in
this mess. The room is dark and dirty, armor and equipment of all sorts lie
about on the floor. There's also a large poor excuse for a bed in the far
end of the room. Although you are in dangerous territory, the stench would
probably bring you down before any of the goblin's swords. The only exit
is west.
A fat and smelly goblin is surprised by your entrance.


512H 23V 33C Exits:W>
backstab toede
Fewmaster Toede makes a strange sound but is suddenly very silent, as you place an emerald short sword i
n his back.
You receive 0 experience.
Fewmaster Toede is dead! R.I.P.

512H 23V 33C [Fewmaster Toede:Dying] Exits:W>
The death cry of Fewmaster Toede echoes from somewhere nearby...



EDIT: I just realized you did list Toede.  i searched "goblin camp." my bad.  Here's a replacement log to make up for it:

618H 197V 189C Exits:(S)W> open door s
Ok.

618H 197V 189C Exits:SW> sneak
You begin moving quietly.

618H 197V 189C Exits:SW> s
backstab korbock
The Great Chamber
     In this large chamber you see a huge pillow upon the floor next to a
great stone throne. A table, chest, and some stone benches are here as
well. Large plates of copper have been engraved to depict different scenes.
These plates have been hung on the walls for decoration. A great deal of
effort was made to make this room elegant but you are not the least bit
impressed.
A large kobold sits here upon the throne.
A burly little kobold stands here glaring at you.
A burly little kobold stands here glaring at you.
A burly little kobold stands here glaring at you.
A burly little kobold stands here glaring at you.
A burly little kobold stands here glaring at you.

618H 195V 189C Exits:N> Korbock reaches behind himself quickly, only to discover your deadly sword in hi
s back.
You receive 0 experience.
Korbock is dead! R.I.P.


This is what happens when all the good players quit..
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: corey on October 09, 2020, 05:04:38 PM
I too have a fun thief solo that you failed to list in your accomplishments:

Here's my rank 62 r6 Legendary Thief.

You are using:
<worn on finger>           a pristine white pearl ring
<worn on finger>           a black draconian insignia
<worn around neck>         an emerald bejeweled brooch
<worn around neck>         an amulet of darkness
<worn on body>             a battle suit covered in black polished spikes
<worn on chest>            a gleaming silver medal (attuned)
<worn on head>             a black domino
<worn on legs>             a pair of golden whale bone greaves
<worn on feet>             a pair of barbed wire boots
<worn on hands>            a pair of wicked green dragon claws
<worn on arms>             the ancient sleeves of stealth
<slung over shoulder>      a small quiver of cured octopus skin
<worn about body>          a heavy black cloak
<worn about waist>         an embroidered black belt and sheath
<worn as pouch>            a dark sack
<worn around right wrist>  a braided leather band
<worn around left wrist>   a braided leather band
<used in primary hand>     an emerald short sword
<used in secondary hand>   a thin mushroom hilted blade

Your current rank affects:

1  Legendary Coup         skill coup by 5               
2  Fwap                   DAMROLL by 2                 
3  Legendary Pick         skill pick by 5               
4  Fireproof              IMMUNE_HEAT                   
5  Iron Man               PHYSICAL_DAMAGE_REDUCTION by 5
6  Wap                    DAMROLL by 1                 
7  Arctic Legend          Turns you into a Legendary   
                          character.                   
8  Legendary Backstab     skill backstab by 5           
9  Legendary Dodge        skill dodge by 5             
10 Legendary Envenom      skill envenom by 5           
11 Legendary Fade         skill fade by 5               
12 Iron Man               PHYSICAL_DAMAGE_REDUCTION by 5
13 Wap                    DAMROLL by 1                 
14 Health Nut             HEALTH by 5                   


Permanent enchantments:
  nightvision
  awareness
  flight
  nocharm
  protection from evil
  protection from undead
  con by 2


512H 24V 33C Exits:NES> e
Fewmaster's Bedroom
     This is the personal bedroom of Fewmaster Toede. Though it may be
better than what the other goblins get, you wouldn't let your dog sleep in
this mess. The room is dark and dirty, armor and equipment of all sorts lie
about on the floor. There's also a large poor excuse for a bed in the far
end of the room. Although you are in dangerous territory, the stench would
probably bring you down before any of the goblin's swords. The only exit
is west.
A fat and smelly goblin is surprised by your entrance.


512H 23V 33C Exits:W>
backstab toede
Fewmaster Toede makes a strange sound but is suddenly very silent, as you place an emerald short sword i
n his back.
You receive 0 experience.
Fewmaster Toede is dead! R.I.P.

512H 23V 33C [Fewmaster Toede:Dying] Exits:W>
The death cry of Fewmaster Toede echoes from somewhere nearby...



EDIT: I just realized you did list Toede.  i searched "goblin camp." my bad.  Here's a replacement log to make up for it:

618H 197V 189C Exits:(S)W> open door s
Ok.

618H 197V 189C Exits:SW> sneak
You begin moving quietly.

618H 197V 189C Exits:SW> s
backstab korbock
The Great Chamber
     In this large chamber you see a huge pillow upon the floor next to a
great stone throne. A table, chest, and some stone benches are here as
well. Large plates of copper have been engraved to depict different scenes.
These plates have been hung on the walls for decoration. A great deal of
effort was made to make this room elegant but you are not the least bit
impressed.
A large kobold sits here upon the throne.
A burly little kobold stands here glaring at you.
A burly little kobold stands here glaring at you.
A burly little kobold stands here glaring at you.
A burly little kobold stands here glaring at you.
A burly little kobold stands here glaring at you.

618H 195V 189C Exits:N> Korbock reaches behind himself quickly, only to discover your deadly sword in hi
s back.
You receive 0 experience.
Korbock is dead! R.I.P.


This is what happens when all the good players quit..

LOL.

"I wish I could play with Brighton, he's so good." said no one ever.
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on October 12, 2020, 02:11:57 PM
That's a great thief set.

Question for ya - why legendary coup?  Are you grouping a lot with thief, or is there a big advantage to having it for soloing that I'm not aware of?
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Vespin on October 15, 2020, 08:36:34 AM
This particular wipe with clan SHLD we had 9 players that averaged about 10 hours/day on the game.  so, i was grouped a lot.  the overall damage was worthwhile.  I thought about dropping it for another damage but honestly at this point everything was overkill.  i considered dropping a damage, coup and pick or maybe health for armor_piercing, but honestly i didn't like that effect too much.  I also considered going full bashmod with ranks and gear, but i liked seeing oblits.  after about 10-12 damage, pretty much anything you put on your thief works about the same.

Also, as this was my first wipe playing where multi-playing was legal and my secondary character was a cleric, having 3 corpses taking advantage of coup the few times i actually put them in the same room mathematically checks out.
Title: Re: Fun Solos from Last Wipe + Thief knowledge
Post by: Heo on October 24, 2020, 01:27:19 AM
Gotcha, makes sense