Arctic Mud

ArcticMUD => Game Ideas => Topic started by: Shannow on October 03, 2019, 02:42:16 PM

Title: Remove shoot skill from Mountain and Ocean scouts
Post by: Shannow on October 03, 2019, 02:42:16 PM
It's beyond useless and serves no purpose other than to grind so let's get rid of it for those two paths. Maybe add in a skill to replace, or give the Sky's something to balance it out (though a Sky's only use is to have shoot so ....)
Title: Re: Remove shoot skill from Mountain and Ocean scouts
Post by: Gnua on October 03, 2019, 04:02:58 PM
It's beyond useless and serves no purpose other than to grind so let's get rid of it for those two paths. Maybe add in a skill to replace, or give the Sky's something to balance it out (though a Sky's only use is to have shoot so ....)

i think part of the problem is that all scout paths have the same skills
Title: Re: Remove shoot skill from Mountain and Ocean scouts
Post by: Malthros on October 04, 2019, 09:53:31 PM
The class in general suffers from trying to make tank, melee, and ranged roles share a common core.


Shoot would be fine on more mountains if they could use instincts and not engage. Thrash + shoot might be a bit silly though. I’m all for making Shoot a sky-only skill and having a skill unqiue to mountains and oceans based on their roles. Make riposte ocean-only and for mountains...?
Title: Re: Remove shoot skill from Mountain and Ocean scouts
Post by: Quid on February 26, 2020, 01:56:42 PM
And make immune_track a toggle, pretty please with sugar on top.
Title: Re: Remove shoot skill from Mountain and Ocean scouts
Post by: Gnua on February 26, 2020, 11:37:39 PM
I’m all for making Shoot a sky-only skill

Is there still a point to shoot with tornado in the game?
Title: Re: Remove shoot skill from Mountain and Ocean scouts
Post by: Hoodoo on February 27, 2020, 12:16:42 PM
100% agree on this. I have loved my ocean kender since the class came out, but it always felt like the shoot skill was an artifact of the unwillingness of a coder to put in extra work to give Oceans and Mts a relevant, flavorful replacement skill.

Also, shoot\fading cats in Balifor at rank 20 is one more pointless grind from which we could be saved.
Title: Re: Remove shoot skill from Mountain and Ocean scouts
Post by: Lloth on February 27, 2020, 12:48:12 PM
Honestly, if the 'shoot' mechanic actually worked just by holding a bow and having arrows and assisting IN COMBAT, I would absolutely play a sky scout. But the way it is now, it's just not worth it to me. I loved the way rangers played back in the day and just assisting with a bow.  R.I.P Rangers :(
Title: Re: Remove shoot skill from Mountain and Ocean scouts
Post by: el conquistador on February 27, 2020, 01:17:06 PM
Honestly, if the 'shoot' mechanic actually worked just by holding a bow and having arrows and assisting IN COMBAT, I would absolutely play a sky scout. But the way it is now, it's just not worth it to me. I loved the way rangers played back in the day and just assisting with a bow.  R.I.P Rangers :(

yeah that was a weird change.  it does feel super awkward to me now.  aim target and spam shoot and dont get area'd or else you have to fade out and repeat.  why?
Title: Re: Remove shoot skill from Mountain and Ocean scouts
Post by: Malthros on February 27, 2020, 05:34:41 PM
Honestly, if the 'shoot' mechanic actually worked just by holding a bow and having arrows and assisting IN COMBAT, I would absolutely play a sky scout. But the way it is now, it's just not worth it to me. I loved the way rangers played back in the day and just assisting with a bow.  R.I.P Rangers :(

Outside of combat you get full evade effectiveness while using shoot at least?