Hoss, I think this "Win at all cost attitude" you speak of is a bit overhyped. Two wipes ago, when RANK (now dele clan) was dominating the mud, they gave peace to any clan that asked for it. Even when they were stomping us (RISE), they felt bad and offered peace. We turned it down because its more fun to war, but nevertheless there was no "win at all cost attitudes". As I have previously stated as well, when I was leading RISE and SOB, there was never any instance that we had the "win at all cost" and "kill them into quitting" attitudes. We have never withheld peace from a clan that asked for it. If a clan asked us for a truce to start a wipe, or peace from war, we obliged. RISE\SOB have warred both Rank\Dele and wild clans, and even during the wars we have friends that are buddies and even irl friends with members of the opposing clans. There are several people who even continually clan hope from Dele to SOB or SOB to Dele just depending on who they feel like playing with. Heck, most of the current Dele clan play league of legends with SOB members and BSP members and there is never a problem. The inter-player douchebaggery is highly overrated and I'd say only about 1-2% of the arctic population actually falls into that category. The only people who quit because of one PK, usually quit because they were embarrassed, or because they value their eq way too much, not because of player attitudes. Heck when I was a noob, I wouldn't make level 12 in a week because I'd get pked 5 times a day in solace sewers.. the old days were much, much worse.
@Gramm while I agree with you that getting rape trained by bots is not cool, its also not police-able. I mean people were getting deleted from the beginning of the wipe, yet people still botted anyway. And if you get pked by a group of bots, guess what, there's no re-imbursement policy so it doesn't matter if they get caught eventually, you still died and lost everything anyway. Now of course if you had a healer bot to heal you when that happened, you probably would have survived, or at least had a chance being on a more leveled playing field.
I feel we definitely need a compromise of some sort, a halfway that will please the players who love multi-play and the players who are afraid of losing the advantage. Something needs to be done here because like I have said, the playerbase is dwindling way too much. And please do not tell me its because of being pked. The playerbase dropped significantly at the beginning of the wipe when people were deleted for botting and the wars hadn't even started yet.